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Re: News and Games around the NHL

8330 by Dave's a mess
So we've talked about how the Avs are having a borderline historically great season with only 2 regulation losses in 30 games. We haven't talked about how Dallas is only 2 points behind them with only one more game played. I think it might be time to just let them play a 7 game series, award the winner the Cup, and have somebody sim the rest of the season on a PS5 for the rest of the draft order.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8331 by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Dave's a mess wrote: Tue Dec 09, 2025 8:44 pm
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Dec 09, 2025 7:37 pm Blues have weirdly not shy'd away from guys with major off ice question marks this year between Mailloux, Lucic, and now Dube.

Anytime you can bring in a 27 year old forward with character issues that averaged a quarter of a point per game in the KHL you’ve gotta do it.
10/10
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Re: News and Games around the NHL

8332 by Dave's a mess
The Oilers finally acquire a goalie:

Jarry is having a solid season for the overachieving Pens, but if I'm an Oiler fan I'm not at all excited. Jarry played 12 games in the minors last year because he was so bad in the NHL. They needed to move on from Skinner, but man they better hope that Jarry works out.

Obviously this means no Binner to Edmonton trade. Not sure who else if anyone is looking for a goalie, so his odds of remaining in the Note for the rest of the season just increased a great deal.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8338 by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Dave's a mess wrote: Fri Dec 12, 2025 7:51 pm Putting Blues hat aside for a moment, that trade fucking rocks.
Absolutely!! Love it for Minnesota. A GM not afraid to take a swing for the fences. It's not often 26 year old elite D-men become available. Now they have to sign him.

And I'm a huge Buium fan. Desperately wanted the Blues to trade up for him and bitched and moaned on here cause they didn't and settled for Jiricek, so I like the return Vancouver got. It's never easy trading a huge fan favorite.
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Re: News and Games around the NHL

8340 by BillP.
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:56 pm I'm not sure 18 year old defensemen are supposed to be as good as Schaefer has been so far just wow. 8 goals 22 points playing over 23 minutes a night. Islanders are 18-11 on the season. Amazing what a top draft pick can do for an organization.

Insane isn’t it and you have to wonder what his ceiling will be. It’s going to be damn high that’s for sure.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8342 by Dave's a mess
BillP. wrote: Sun Dec 14, 2025 2:55 am
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Sat Dec 13, 2025 5:56 pm I'm not sure 18 year old defensemen are supposed to be as good as Schaefer has been so far just wow. 8 goals 22 points playing over 23 minutes a night. Islanders are 18-11 on the season. Amazing what a top draft pick can do for an organization.

Insane isn’t it and you have to wonder what his ceiling will be. It’s going to be damn high that’s for sure.
The Schaefer story is really cool. He separated himself as the clear number 1 pick in the second half of the season last year, but I don’t think anyone, even the Islanders, thought he’d come in and crush it right away.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8343 by Dave's a mess
In the 2023-24 season, the Canucks were the first place team in the Pacific. They had 3 point per game players in Miller, Pettersson, and the Norris trophy winning Quinn Hughes. Brock Boeser scored 40 goals. Thatcher Demko finished second in the Vezina voting. Head Coach Rick Tocchet won the Jack Adams Award as best coach. In the second round of the playoffs they came up 1 goal short of a 3 goal comeback against the Oilers in game 7, a series in which Demko missed entirely due to injury.

Flash forward to today. Hughes is gone. Miller is gone. Tocchet is gone. Pettersson's game has fallen off and he can't stay healthy. Boeser is only on pace for 25 goals. Demko has only played 35 games over the past 2 years an is nowhere near the Vezina finalist he was 2 years ago. All 3 of those players (Pettersson/Boeser/Demko) signed big contracts of varying length with full no trade clauses. The Canucks have the worst record in the league by both overall points and points percentage.

There are a lot of reasons it went wrong over the last 18 months, but boy is it absolutely startling to see how back it got that fast.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8344 by Dread_Pirate_Westley
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 8:37 am In the 2023-24 season, the Canucks were the first place team in the Pacific. They had 3 point per game players in Miller, Pettersson, and the Norris trophy winning Quinn Hughes. Brock Boeser scored 40 goals. Thatcher Demko finished second in the Vezina voting. Head Coach Rick Tocchet won the Jack Adams Award as best coach. In the second round of the playoffs they came up 1 goal short of a 3 goal comeback against the Oilers in game 7, a series in which Demko missed entirely due to injury.

Flash forward to today. Hughes is gone. Miller is gone. Tocchet is gone. Pettersson's game has fallen off and he can't stay healthy. Boeser is only on pace for 25 goals. Demko has only played 35 games over the past 2 years an is nowhere near the Vezina finalist he was 2 years ago. All 3 of those players (Pettersson/Boeser/Demko) signed big contracts of varying length with full no trade clauses. The Canucks have the worst record in the league by both overall points and points percentage.

There are a lot of reasons it went wrong over the last 18 months, but boy is it absolutely startling to see how back it got that fast.
Petterson's fall and decline needs to be studied. He went from a 100 point guy to a 50-60 point guy and you can't even blame age or injuries on it.
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Re: News and Games around the NHL

8345 by BluesSK
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 8:37 am In the 2023-24 season, the Canucks were the first place team in the Pacific. They had 3 point per game players in Miller, Pettersson, and the Norris trophy winning Quinn Hughes. Brock Boeser scored 40 goals. Thatcher Demko finished second in the Vezina voting. Head Coach Rick Tocchet won the Jack Adams Award as best coach. In the second round of the playoffs they came up 1 goal short of a 3 goal comeback against the Oilers in game 7, a series in which Demko missed entirely due to injury.

Flash forward to today. Hughes is gone. Miller is gone. Tocchet is gone. Pettersson's game has fallen off and he can't stay healthy. Boeser is only on pace for 25 goals. Demko has only played 35 games over the past 2 years an is nowhere near the Vezina finalist he was 2 years ago. All 3 of those players (Pettersson/Boeser/Demko) signed big contracts of varying length with full no trade clauses. The Canucks have the worst record in the league by both overall points and points percentage.

There are a lot of reasons it went wrong over the last 18 months, but boy is it absolutely startling to see how back it got that fast.
Losing a few good players now is the difference between success and mediocrity.

I've been thinking the pool of talent that is NHL quality is pretty thin. And the League keeps expanding. The best individual players are still great but the overall product isn't that good anymore.

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8346 by Dave's a mess
BluesSK wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 10:03 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Dec 15, 2025 8:37 am In the 2023-24 season, the Canucks were the first place team in the Pacific. They had 3 point per game players in Miller, Pettersson, and the Norris trophy winning Quinn Hughes. Brock Boeser scored 40 goals. Thatcher Demko finished second in the Vezina voting. Head Coach Rick Tocchet won the Jack Adams Award as best coach. In the second round of the playoffs they came up 1 goal short of a 3 goal comeback against the Oilers in game 7, a series in which Demko missed entirely due to injury.

Flash forward to today. Hughes is gone. Miller is gone. Tocchet is gone. Pettersson's game has fallen off and he can't stay healthy. Boeser is only on pace for 25 goals. Demko has only played 35 games over the past 2 years an is nowhere near the Vezina finalist he was 2 years ago. All 3 of those players (Pettersson/Boeser/Demko) signed big contracts of varying length with full no trade clauses. The Canucks have the worst record in the league by both overall points and points percentage.

There are a lot of reasons it went wrong over the last 18 months, but boy is it absolutely startling to see how back it got that fast.
Losing a few good players now is the difference between success and mediocrity.

I've been thinking the pool of talent that is NHL quality is pretty thin. And the League keeps expanding. The best individual players are still great but the overall product isn't that good anymore.
The Miller/Pettersson friction and the locker room disaster it caused was one of the all time own goals of this era of the NHL. I don't know that we'll ever know what really caused that friction in the first place or if it was just 2 wildly different personalities that couldn't stay out of each other's way. If those two had been able to figure out how to keep playing good hockey, Quinn Hughes is still a Canuck, and they're probably at the very least in the playoff picture this year.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: News and Games around the NHL

8347 by Dread_Pirate_Westley
I wonder how long the Seattle market keeps filling that arena? They've finished 8th, 4th, 6th, 7th in the division in their existince and are currently tied for the 2nd fewest points in hockey. They have been the exact opposite of what Vegas was coming into the league.

They have pretty much completely whiffed in the draft. Their first top two picks have a combined 9 goals on the year.
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Re: News and Games around the NHL

8348 by Dave's a mess
Dread_Pirate_Westley wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:30 am I wonder how long the Seattle market keeps filling that arena? They've finished 8th, 4th, 6th, 7th in the division in their existince and are currently tied for the 2nd fewest points in hockey. They have been the exact opposite of what Vegas was coming into the league.

They have pretty much completely whiffed in the draft. Their first top two picks have a combined 9 goals on the year.
Plus, the NBA is looking to bring back the SuperSonics at some point soon, so they're going to have direct competition for eyeballs and tickets.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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