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Re: Blues offseason thread

126 by Robb_K
DPW wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 8:50 am
Dave's a mess wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 7:58 am
T.C. wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2026 7:15 am I've seen the statement made that local broadcasters would remain. Anxiously awaiting further details.
The announcers stink, but that's to be expected on a nickel and dime budget. I just hope local fans don't have to jump through a bunch of hoops to watch the games.
Every time I hear Kerbs do an interview he just comes off as a pompous ass who talks down to the fanbase. Truly can't stand they canned Kelly for him.
Same for me. I guess they didn't want to pay nearly as much as Kelly was asking. Not a class move.

Re: Blues offseason thread

130 by Dave's a mess
They make one of these every year, but this one was way more interesting than most with Blues busy first round:


An interesting tidbit in there was that it sounds like deviated from their draft list last year when they picked Carbonneau. Armstrong alluded to a D being the top guy on their board when the pick came around, but they didn't want to draft another D after just trading for Mailloux. Plenty of other interesting things in there.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: Blues offseason thread

131 by BillP.
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:29 am They make one of these every year, but this one was way more interesting than most with Blues busy first round:


An interesting tidbit in there was that it sounds like deviated from their draft list last year when they picked Carbonneau. Armstrong alluded to a D being the top guy on their board when the pick came around, but they didn't want to draft another D after just trading for Mailloux. Plenty of other interesting things in there.
Okay, I'll have to watch this during lunch today - thanks!

Re: Blues offseason thread

132 by BluesSK
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:29 am They make one of these every year, but this one was way more interesting than most with Blues busy first round:


An interesting tidbit in there was that it sounds like deviated from their draft list last year when they picked Carbonneau. Armstrong alluded to a D being the top guy on their board when the pick came around, but they didn't want to draft another D after just trading for Mailloux. Plenty of other interesting things in there.
Yes. It was a pretty good watch. It really seems like they didn't have any interest in the rest of the guys in the first round after the Lawrence pick other than Dagenais (who they had ranked 14). They pretty much knew they were going to get either Lawrence or Cullen right from the get-go, so the initial focus was on that.

But even when they had the chance to move up to 12 they said "meh" because they knew they were going to get Dagenais anyways. They didn't plan on using 15 or 16 and wanted to move them in trades for established players.

I'd say it worked out pretty well for them.

Re: Blues offseason thread

133 by Robb_K
Dave's a mess wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2026 8:29 am They make one of these every year, but this one was way more interesting than most with Blues busy first round:


An interesting tidbit in there was that it sounds like deviated from their draft list last year when they picked Carbonneau. Armstrong alluded to a D being the top guy on their board when the pick came around, but they didn't want to draft another D after just trading for Mailloux. Plenty of other interesting things in there.
Nice to see this video showing how The Blues went about getting their first 2 First Round picks, and making the trade for McTavish, and finding out that they were going ton draft defenceman, but getting Mailloux prevented them from reaching a bit for a D-Man just because they had too few high-level defence prospects in the pipeline. Had the D-man available at their turn been 20% better- skillwise, attitudewise, and in body size, they'd have gone with HIM, rather than another highly-skilled forward. I'm still a little peeved that they had to give up so much for McTavish. But, I think he can become a solid 2nd liner (I hope at centre - if everything goes to plan) .

Re: Blues offseason thread

137 by DPW
Finally got the chance to watch the Draft video.

It's clear they are talking about Wyatt Cullen in the first portion of it. Seems they had very mixed views on him. Doug asked the obvious question..this guy jumped up that much because he grew a couple inches?

Based on this curated video of releasing specifically what they wanted to be seen, it seems obvious they zeroed in on Lawrence and he was always going to be there pick. But they aren't going to release portions of them hyping up someone else they didn't get.

Also sounds like pick 11 was never in play in a MacTavish trade.

Steen very much seemed along for the ride, Doug was driving the bus. I don't know if I heard him speak at all.
Just a Russian propaganda account

Re: Blues offseason thread

143 by DPW
Corey Pronman has the Blues ranked #7 in pipeline rankings. They were ranked 16th last year. Carbonneau at 7 really points to how high on him he is not. He also list Otto Stenberg all the way down at 16 behind some guy named Landon Nycz? Lindstein at 12. Starting to think he might be anti-Swede.

1. Jimmy Snuggerud, RW
2. Adam Jiříček, D
3. Dalibor Dvorský, C
4. Tynan Lawrence, C
Analysis: Lawrence is an excellent skater with the quick-twitch feet that allow him to buzz around the ice. He works very hard and brings a lot of pace and energy to his shifts. He’s a very strong puck handler who creates chances on the move. His vision and decision-making aren’t the best, and he can force a lot of plays. He projects as a two-way third-line center.
5. Milton Gästrin, C
Analysis: Gästrin is a good-sized center who skates well and competes hard. He’s a responsible two-way player who creates offense at the net-front very well. He has skill, and while I would not describe him as dynamic offensively by any means, he makes enough plays to go with his responsible two-way play to make me think he could be a middle-six center.
6. Maddox Dagenais, C
Analysis: Dagenais has all the aesthetic tools. He’s a tall center who moves well for his size, with legit offensive skills and a high-end shot from range. Dagenais is a physical player who leans on opponents with his big body. Despite that element in his game, he plays on the outside too much like a lot of shooters, and can be an inconsistent player offensively. He projects as a third-line forward, potentially down the middle.
7. Justin Carbonneau, RW
Analysis: Carbonneau has been a top player in the QMJHL for the last two years. He’s a strong skater and puck handler who can beat defenders one-on-one at full flight. He’s a physically developed winger who plays hard and can win puck battles fairly often. His style of play is highly translatable to the NHL game with the pace and effort in his shifts. He has a great shot and is often a threat to score from the faceoff dots with his one-timer. The one issue with Carbonneau is that his decision-making at times is questionable, and I wouldn’t call him a natural playmaker. He projects as a middle-six winger.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/746143 ... directed=1
Just a Russian propaganda account

Re: Blues offseason thread

144 by Dave's a mess
DPW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2026 9:05 am Corey Pronman has the Blues ranked #7 in pipeline rankings. They were ranked 16th last year. Carbonneau at 7 really points to how high on him he is not. He also list Otto Stenberg all the way down at 16 behind some guy named Landon Nycz? Lindstein at 12. Starting to think he might be anti-Swede.

1. Jimmy Snuggerud, RW
2. Adam Jiříček, D
3. Dalibor Dvorský, C
4. Tynan Lawrence, C
Analysis: Lawrence is an excellent skater with the quick-twitch feet that allow him to buzz around the ice. He works very hard and brings a lot of pace and energy to his shifts. He’s a very strong puck handler who creates chances on the move. His vision and decision-making aren’t the best, and he can force a lot of plays. He projects as a two-way third-line center.
5. Milton Gästrin, C
Analysis: Gästrin is a good-sized center who skates well and competes hard. He’s a responsible two-way player who creates offense at the net-front very well. He has skill, and while I would not describe him as dynamic offensively by any means, he makes enough plays to go with his responsible two-way play to make me think he could be a middle-six center.
6. Maddox Dagenais, C
Analysis: Dagenais has all the aesthetic tools. He’s a tall center who moves well for his size, with legit offensive skills and a high-end shot from range. Dagenais is a physical player who leans on opponents with his big body. Despite that element in his game, he plays on the outside too much like a lot of shooters, and can be an inconsistent player offensively. He projects as a third-line forward, potentially down the middle.
7. Justin Carbonneau, RW
Analysis: Carbonneau has been a top player in the QMJHL for the last two years. He’s a strong skater and puck handler who can beat defenders one-on-one at full flight. He’s a physically developed winger who plays hard and can win puck battles fairly often. His style of play is highly translatable to the NHL game with the pace and effort in his shifts. He has a great shot and is often a threat to score from the faceoff dots with his one-timer. The one issue with Carbonneau is that his decision-making at times is questionable, and I wouldn’t call him a natural playmaker. He projects as a middle-six winger.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/746143 ... directed=1
Stenberg at 16 in the organization below 23 years old seems extreme, but his ceiling isn't very high. I'll be the optimist and say if he's 16th in your young player pool, you're in great shape.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!

Re: Blues offseason thread

145 by Ozzies09tc
DPW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2026 9:05 am Corey Pronman has the Blues ranked #7 in pipeline rankings. They were ranked 16th last year. Carbonneau at 7 really points to how high on him he is not. He also list Otto Stenberg all the way down at 16 behind some guy named Landon Nycz? Lindstein at 12. Starting to think he might be anti-Swede.

1. Jimmy Snuggerud, RW
2. Adam Jiříček, D
3. Dalibor Dvorský, C
4. Tynan Lawrence, C
Analysis: Lawrence is an excellent skater with the quick-twitch feet that allow him to buzz around the ice. He works very hard and brings a lot of pace and energy to his shifts. He’s a very strong puck handler who creates chances on the move. His vision and decision-making aren’t the best, and he can force a lot of plays. He projects as a two-way third-line center.
5. Milton Gästrin, C
Analysis: Gästrin is a good-sized center who skates well and competes hard. He’s a responsible two-way player who creates offense at the net-front very well. He has skill, and while I would not describe him as dynamic offensively by any means, he makes enough plays to go with his responsible two-way play to make me think he could be a middle-six center.
6. Maddox Dagenais, C
Analysis: Dagenais has all the aesthetic tools. He’s a tall center who moves well for his size, with legit offensive skills and a high-end shot from range. Dagenais is a physical player who leans on opponents with his big body. Despite that element in his game, he plays on the outside too much like a lot of shooters, and can be an inconsistent player offensively. He projects as a third-line forward, potentially down the middle.
7. Justin Carbonneau, RW
Analysis: Carbonneau has been a top player in the QMJHL for the last two years. He’s a strong skater and puck handler who can beat defenders one-on-one at full flight. He’s a physically developed winger who plays hard and can win puck battles fairly often. His style of play is highly translatable to the NHL game with the pace and effort in his shifts. He has a great shot and is often a threat to score from the faceoff dots with his one-timer. The one issue with Carbonneau is that his decision-making at times is questionable, and I wouldn’t call him a natural playmaker. He projects as a middle-six winger.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/746143 ... directed=1
His description of Carbs is lateral-if not higher praise- than Ty Law, Gassy, and Dags yet he's rater lower?
Hey, it's what it's.

Re: Blues offseason thread

147 by Robb_K
I learned that The Blues and 2 other NHL teams have all reached an accepted agreement to the compensation they'd have to pay The Canes for Nikishin. The hold up is that NONE of the 3 teams (Blues included) want to pay Nikishin the amount of average annual Dollars for the number of years they're willing to give. So, we'll just have to wait to see which of the 3 teams are willing to overpay Nikishin a little, to win the bidding. Andy Strickland mentioned that his "inside source" told him that The Blues have a strict limit that they won't surpass, regardless of what the other teams bid, or what Nikishin's agent's "best price" will be. So, I'm not terribly confident that The Blues will land him.

Re: Blues offseason thread

148 by BillP.
DPW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2026 9:05 am Corey Pronman has the Blues ranked #7 in pipeline rankings. They were ranked 16th last year. Carbonneau at 7 really points to how high on him he is not. He also list Otto Stenberg all the way down at 16 behind some guy named Landon Nycz? Lindstein at 12. Starting to think he might be anti-Swede.

1. Jimmy Snuggerud, RW
2. Adam Jiříček, D
3. Dalibor Dvorský, C
4. Tynan Lawrence, C
Analysis: Lawrence is an excellent skater with the quick-twitch feet that allow him to buzz around the ice. He works very hard and brings a lot of pace and energy to his shifts. He’s a very strong puck handler who creates chances on the move. His vision and decision-making aren’t the best, and he can force a lot of plays. He projects as a two-way third-line center.
5. Milton Gästrin, C
Analysis: Gästrin is a good-sized center who skates well and competes hard. He’s a responsible two-way player who creates offense at the net-front very well. He has skill, and while I would not describe him as dynamic offensively by any means, he makes enough plays to go with his responsible two-way play to make me think he could be a middle-six center.
6. Maddox Dagenais, C
Analysis: Dagenais has all the aesthetic tools. He’s a tall center who moves well for his size, with legit offensive skills and a high-end shot from range. Dagenais is a physical player who leans on opponents with his big body. Despite that element in his game, he plays on the outside too much like a lot of shooters, and can be an inconsistent player offensively. He projects as a third-line forward, potentially down the middle.
7. Justin Carbonneau, RW
Analysis: Carbonneau has been a top player in the QMJHL for the last two years. He’s a strong skater and puck handler who can beat defenders one-on-one at full flight. He’s a physically developed winger who plays hard and can win puck battles fairly often. His style of play is highly translatable to the NHL game with the pace and effort in his shifts. He has a great shot and is often a threat to score from the faceoff dots with his one-timer. The one issue with Carbonneau is that his decision-making at times is questionable, and I wouldn’t call him a natural playmaker. He projects as a middle-six winger.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/746143 ... directed=1
Crazy that Gastrin is rated higher than Carbs. And he was just a supplemental piece on a recent deal. I'm not going to take this list to heart, it would get me upset - ha

Re: Blues offseason thread

149 by BluesSK
BillP. wrote: Fri Aug 21, 2026 6:35 am
DPW wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2026 9:05 am Corey Pronman has the Blues ranked #7 in pipeline rankings. They were ranked 16th last year. Carbonneau at 7 really points to how high on him he is not. He also list Otto Stenberg all the way down at 16 behind some guy named Landon Nycz? Lindstein at 12. Starting to think he might be anti-Swede.

1. Jimmy Snuggerud, RW
2. Adam Jiříček, D
3. Dalibor Dvorský, C
4. Tynan Lawrence, C
Analysis: Lawrence is an excellent skater with the quick-twitch feet that allow him to buzz around the ice. He works very hard and brings a lot of pace and energy to his shifts. He’s a very strong puck handler who creates chances on the move. His vision and decision-making aren’t the best, and he can force a lot of plays. He projects as a two-way third-line center.
5. Milton Gästrin, C
Analysis: Gästrin is a good-sized center who skates well and competes hard. He’s a responsible two-way player who creates offense at the net-front very well. He has skill, and while I would not describe him as dynamic offensively by any means, he makes enough plays to go with his responsible two-way play to make me think he could be a middle-six center.
6. Maddox Dagenais, C
Analysis: Dagenais has all the aesthetic tools. He’s a tall center who moves well for his size, with legit offensive skills and a high-end shot from range. Dagenais is a physical player who leans on opponents with his big body. Despite that element in his game, he plays on the outside too much like a lot of shooters, and can be an inconsistent player offensively. He projects as a third-line forward, potentially down the middle.
7. Justin Carbonneau, RW
Analysis: Carbonneau has been a top player in the QMJHL for the last two years. He’s a strong skater and puck handler who can beat defenders one-on-one at full flight. He’s a physically developed winger who plays hard and can win puck battles fairly often. His style of play is highly translatable to the NHL game with the pace and effort in his shifts. He has a great shot and is often a threat to score from the faceoff dots with his one-timer. The one issue with Carbonneau is that his decision-making at times is questionable, and I wouldn’t call him a natural playmaker. He projects as a middle-six winger.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/746143 ... directed=1
Crazy that Gastrin is rated higher than Carbs. And he was just a supplemental piece on a recent deal. I'm not going to take this list to heart, it would get me upset - ha
I have no idea why people feel Pronman is a credible talent evaluator.

Re: Blues offseason thread

150 by Dave's a mess
Robb_K wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2026 11:13 pm I learned that The Blues and 2 other NHL teams have all reached an accepted agreement to the compensation they'd have to pay The Canes for Nikishin. The hold up is that NONE of the 3 teams (Blues included) want to pay Nikishin the amount of average annual Dollars for the number of years they're willing to give. So, we'll just have to wait to see which of the 3 teams are willing to overpay Nikishin a little, to win the bidding. Andy Strickland mentioned that his "inside source" told him that The Blues have a strict limit that they won't surpass, regardless of what the other teams bid, or what Nikishin's agent's "best price" will be. So, I'm not terribly confident that The Blues will land him.
That's interesting. While it'd be nice to get a young player that just had a really good debut season for the champs, it's probably wise to exercise a bit of caution on this one. He played on the bottom pair throughout the season and once the playoffs started he played about 15 minutes a night. He still had a hell of a rookie year, but there are enough unknowns to at least be careful about what kind of contract you offer him.
...but whatever, the Blues won the Cup!!!!!
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